Episode 7 - Co-Parenting Like A Pro

podcast Oct 03, 2022
Do Divorce Right
Episode 7 - Co-Parenting Like A Pro
31:15
 

The Do Divorce Right podcast is a new podcast dedicated to looking at the many different aspects of divorce,  interviews with women who have their own incredible divorce stories or those who can offer some great advice as you go through yours. Hosted by Becca Maxwell, a divorce coach and relational intelligence consultant, the focus here is to help you to find the strength and support to help you heal, feel lighter and in a better frame of mind to face the inevitable challenges of your divorce journey.

In this episode, we will hear the story of Sam who has balances a very demanding job with solo parenting because she has developed an amazing co-parenting arrangement.

Sam shares the specifics of how she and her ex-husband successfully co-parent their two children and have even introduced new partners in the mix.

Her story is inspiring and provides valuable insights into the possibilities of co-parenting.

 

Audio Transcript

Becca

Welcome to the Do Divorce Right podcast. 

I'm your host, Becca Maxwell. And I'm here to help you transition through your divorce with ease and integrity, to not only survive the challenges of your divorce, but to thrive as you come out the other side of it with a much better life than you ever hoped possible. On this show, we talk about many different aspects of divorce, interview women who have their own incredible divorce stories, or those who can offer some great advice as you go through yours. The focus here is to help you find the strength and support to help you feel lighter, happier, more positive, and in a better frame of mind to face the inevitable challenges of your current journey.

Becca  

Okay, today on the Do Divorce Right podcast, I would like to introduce you to Sam, who was kind of an unofficial client of mine a long time ago. So Sam and I have been friends for a very long time, and I helped coach her through a pretty shitty time in her divorce. Before I was actually a divorce coach, she has an incredible story of successful co parenting, and I can't wait for people to hear about this. Not only just Sam juggle a full time job as a Chief Strategy Officer at a successful digital agency, with solo parenting to gorgeous children, and oh my God, they are so gorgeous. I've got a big crush on your little boy. And a fabulously full social life. But she lives around the corner from her ex husband, both of whom have introduced new partners into the mix along the way. Sam, there's no doubt that your fabulous human being, and I'm in awe of you, and especially how you cope with this co parenting arrangement. So

can you tell people in your words, what are the specifics of the arrangement that you have with your ex?

Sam  

I can so well, first of all, give you some background. So Brett and I were together for 10 years, and we've now been apart for six years. And in fact that the anniversary of the breakup is coming up in November, and we kind of celebrate that. And I was like a little bit of you.

Becca  

And how do you celebrate it is a gift. And just to pay you 1000 It's

Sam  

my thing, it makes me you know, a text and call it Medicaid or something like that. Anyway. So it's around, it was around November, and I was the one that left the family home, I'm lucky to be financially independent. And before I left the family home, I really just googled the shit out of all different sorts of parenting arrangements. So I had a look at my kids were really young, when when I left, Freddie was only 11 months old, is my would have been three. So it was really important to not try and come up with an arrangement that took the kids away from me too much or from from their dad, you know, regardless of what I felt for him at the time, and I was having look online, and there was this kind of arrangement around this 5050 and had a look at it. And we still stick to that arrangement now. So we both agreed on it when I made the plan and came to him and said, Here's what I think he was like you're

Becca  

so you sick now to the agreement that you made six years ago? Yep. Amazing. All right.

Sam  

So the way that we separate the week, and remember he's he's got a different job to me. So he needs certain nights of the week, I've got a job where I need to be have focused time in the week. So every Saturday at 1130 in the morning, I pick the kids up from him. And I have the kids all the way through to Wednesday morning. And sometimes I drop the kids off at school on Wednesday or he'll pick them up from my house and then with him until the Saturday and is exactly the same. Every single week, week in week out. I find that works for us because it means I know where I'm at professionally, I know that I travel like my job. So I know every Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, I can be in Sydney I can be in Brisbane, I can be where I need to be. He's an actor, he knows he can be on stage or an opening night on a Friday. But there's massive flexibility in our arrangement. Yeah, there would have to be. I think that's, that's also the key. It's It's learning to not hate each other enough to be flexible with each other. So, example is I've got to go to a pitch in Sydney in two weeks. You know, I need him to have kids on the Thursday night because I've got to fly super early in the morning. He's okay with that. You probably know this, you know, he went off on a holiday this year went to the States see what skiing to Japan. And I took the kids for that time. I just had to make some arrangements. But the trick is to be super flexible. You know, I take Saturday's Saturday's back when I only go away for the weekend. And it's just keep talking. If people notice when you need to take the extra days or not. school holidays we do a little bit differently. We do like a week on week off. Yeah. So you know, every school holidays is two weeks. So the first week always mine otherwise it wouldn't kind of work out fair because I would end up having the kids for a really long time after the second week. And that works super well too. Because then I get to get a week off and either work or do what I want but I can really plan that week with the kids. There's other times around that where they want to go away and take the kids somewhere else normally led by his partner aiming and that's okay too. You know, I'm happy to have extra free time.

Becca  

It just Yeah, I was gonna ask about that. Because if your arrangement is that you pick them up Saturday morning. That means every weekend is with you. Where's the same time? I'm with with your

Sam  

Wednesday, Thursday Fridays like Friday nights always be my favorite nights go out. I actually really want to spend my weekends with them. No, right you know as many as nine now Now, they're not going to want to spend that much more time with me when they start getting to be teenagers, they're going to want to do what they want at weekends. But like I said, you know, Brett's pretty flexible, I probably have taken quite a few Saturdays backup of him and gone away for weekends. Yeah. And I feel like, I get a lot of time to myself. And those three days where I'm alone, or three and a half days, whatever they work out. And by the time it comes around to that Friday night, I've missed them enough to really look forward to getting him getting 1130 on Saturday. Yeah, that's gorgeous.

Becca  

It's so nice to be able to have a balance of time away from them time with them. As you know, I don't get that anymore. I'm not co parenting, the children never go to their dads. And part of me messes that so that I can have my overtone time. Yeah, but I feel like your even your time away from the kids. You're working so much. Lucky, Sam stuff in there. Yeah,

Sam  

not really. I mean, if I go to Sydney, I make sure I get to dealing with friends. I try and build my exercise into the days that they're not with me. So it does get pretty busy. And it does make it hard for other people to come into my life. I will admit, you know that there's not that much time or space for another partner, which I've definitely experienced over the last couple of years. But that's okay, because I feel massively fulfilled in the things that I've got in my life. And I just try and balance out. I think if I didn't love my job, as much as I love my job, it would be a different story, I would probably feel a little bit more resentful. And I would work towards a different structure with him. But it works perfectly for it has worked perfectly for the last six years, right? Yeah, but let's give you

Becca  

a bit more credit for that you don't love your job, because the job is gifting you that you love your job, because you've co created Yes, what it is, and you've set your intentions and gone out and worked hard to do what you do, you know, it could have gone any way you could have done what your bosses had asked you to do, which was not to play into your strengths, perhaps you would have been managing an office instead of doing the strategic leadership.

Sam  

It's really interesting. I was thinking about this when I knew I was going to be talking to you. And going back to when I moved out the house. And Freddie was 11 months old. And I was only just coming out of Matt leave. And that was like, I went back into work as a new in a new job. So I had broken up with my husband, I had moved house. And I had a brand new job as a head of planning at that time with a baby with a baby. Yeah, that lead up to Christmas, where you know, Christmas is fraught with danger with divorced families. And I barely remember that time. I barely remember that two months of. So you're right. I've worked hard at curating the life I have now. And I kind of conveniently forgotten how hard it was in those that first year.

Becca  

Yeah, yeah. Oh, gosh, there's kind of a couple of different ways I want to go here, I want to pull it a few threads. And I'll try and come back to them. And in case I forget it, alright, let's pull it the thread of other partners. Because I find this quite fascinating. You've both you've both had multiple partners in those six years. Right. And let's talk about the first time one of you wanted to introduce a new partner and see how that went down. All right, so Sam is bringing a new man and how that was

Sam  

It's hard to remember because it was in that first year of when I'd moved out. And actually, Brett was very grown up about it. We met in a pub, we had this set in our agreement. We were like if we want to introduce new people to the kids, we have to introduce them to each other first right?

Becca  

Ideas fair enough to say our audience, you have veto power, you're not just

Sam  

saying this one. Oh, then we will realize that later on, right. So the first time I introduced Brett to the guy was sitting at the time in a pub around the corner. It was super awkward because it was the first time when we'd done it, but everybody was grown up. We had a half an hour drink. You know, but all the things that happened in my marriage. Brett's very good at people and making people feel comfortable. And he wanted to really make him feel comfortable. And so did I. So once we got over that awkwardness, and then he met someone not long after that, and we met and for me, it was really just about making sure that those people loved my children, you know, respected him as a dad with those the times that he has with the kids. And we've never had a problem. You know, in a couple of partners, the partner he's with now he's been with for three years. Yeah. And I probably like her more than him to be honest. I

Becca  

think you realize this is a public podcast. This is gonna get out

Sam  

there. She's, she's awesome. So, you know, we've just addressed it by being grownups.

Becca  

Yeah. All right. Let's go into that. What's the most awkward situation I guess you've had this. It's It sounds very grown up. That sounds very ideal, which is obviously why I wanted to talk to you about it. But so for Brett to meet this new man in your life, he must have been in a place where he had also grieved the marriage. He wasn't trying to win you back. You're not trying to win his him back. Was there any any advice you could give to people around the place that you need to be to be able to? Let go? Yes,

Sam  

yes. So the difference between men and women is women know that the relationship is over when they're in the relationship. So we mourn and grieve within the relationship, if it's our choice, most of the time, and then a lot of men are kind of like, whoa, what just happened? For me, so I can't speak to how Brett dealt with it, but I can say how I dealt with it. So you obviously there's a lot of anger involved in in breakups. And I think the way that I've lived my life is I've tried to reframe everything with a positive light. So, you know, reframing, feeling guilty about things to feeling grateful about things. And so I reframed in my mind, the leaving of him and the breakup of my of my marriage as freedom. And as soon as I saw it as freedom, I was able to either live with or let go of the anger that I felt because no one wants to wake up every single day feeling annoyed, it eats at you, I just, I'm a positive person, I need to reframe things. And so the reframing of all of that allowed me to just kind of let that stuff go, really, I'm not saying it wasn't hard, but I had to like sort of really coach myself through it.

Becca  

And was there. Did you have to coach Brett through that as well? No,

Sam  

I see. I don't know, Brett was, I can't really speak to how he dealt with it all.

Becca  

My interview him separately.

Sam  

I mean, what I do know about Brett, and as an actor, he's very emotionally in touch with himself. So probably more so than me at times. So I feel like he had found a way to let his feelings out, acknowledge them and move on. I'm not sure a lot of men are able to do that. Like, you know, he means he's an emotional guy. So I feel like that kind of training in having to understand his own emotions and bring them out and his work allowed him to do that in moving on. And except for its other partners, and vice versa.

Becca  

All right, then let's get a little bit gossipy. I'm not gonna ask you anything inappropriate. Tell me about awkwardness in bringing, you've got some awesome examples of how weird and wonderful your relationship is. And I wonder which ones you might pull up?

Sam  

Oh, God, I can't think of any I mean, there's a couple of you mean, like awkward situations. Okay.

Becca  

Let's have like, the one I'm thinking of in particular killer is Mother's days in these last few years. But maybe you've got better story. So

Sam  

what I remember mother's days. Tell me what you remember.

Becca  

All right. Well, what I remember about this is that it's coming towards Mother's Day. It obviously Mother's Day is on it Sunday, isn't it? So the kids are with you. But you can't, you know, support them in celebrating you that should be their dad's job. And that it was your ex husband's girlfriend, who took the children to buy you a Mother's Day gift and help deliver it while he was in bed having asleep Is that about right? It sounds

Sam  

about right. And it's happened more than once that there was another year where I'd sort of said to him the day before, remember to get me to go with the kids and let them choose me some flowers or something like that. Because normally they do such great stuff at school. I don't need presents and stuff. Like the stuff they make at school was good enough. But then again, Saturday, like his partner, Amy had taken them to the flower shop so that Brett could have a shower. And then took a picture of her with my kids. To me going to choosing some flowers, I mean, lovely. And then bought me some beautiful flowers. And then you know they I got them on the Saturday. More recently. So Amy, his partner, she runs her own fashion label. And so this year, I was the lovely recipient of one of her items, the clothing goes in which great but you know, it's just it's it's kind of her leading that and I don't find it awkward. It's just it is what it is right? Yeah, yeah, I try not to get annoyed at the things that annoyed me about him in the marriage anymore. You just kind of accept it and kind of laugh about it. And I'm very happy to receive fashionable guests on Mother's Day. Absolutely.

Becca  

And like this guy's not going anywhere. Right? He's the father of your children forever. So letting go of what has pissed you off in the marriage is just the right way to go. Have you so you left in November and We're coming up to Christmas time now. And there's people thinking how the hell are they going to get through this? Not that I'm asking you to remember that first Christmas. But let's talk about how do you manage? How do you manage that? Now what do you have crab? You created new traditions? Do you take it in turns what is what is Christmas look like.

Sam  

So the one thing that is consistent is we rotate every year, who gets the kids on Christmas Eve and Christmas morning, so that it doesn't matter where we are in the routine of the days on days off, we rotate that so that everybody gets, you know, you put the kids to bed, you have the magic of you know them waking up in your house. So this year is his term for that. So that's, that's the only thing that's consistent. I'm not gonna lie, Christmas makes me a little bit anxious because we don't really because it's a six week holiday. There's kind of no week on week off thing that we do. We actually sit down around September, October time, and I go, I would like to do this. Now we've got a nice family in the mix, who lived down the coast, he's also trying to manage his own family and her family because she loves the kids so much she want the kids to be introduced into their new traditions. So it's kind of a little bit freestyle Not gonna lie, we sit down, and we try and work it out. And it might end up being, you know, if you're the person having that Christmas Day, then you kind of get the flow on from there. And we do like five days on five days off. Honestly, it's so not uniformed. And we're just working that out at the moment. But that does give me a little bit of anxiety because I do you know me, I like to know where I'm going to be and what I'm doing and I want to plan things as well. So that's probably the only bit that we're, yeah, we're a lot more fluid on that each year.

Becca  

Okay. And if they spend the morning, waking up at break. Yeah. Straight away. Yeah, I

Sam  

was on and I turn up, although they tend to sleep in longer at his house, which is annoying. But let's say it's his turn this year, I will get up in my pajamas and go over there at seven o'clock. We'll all open presents together.

Becca  

salutely Welcome. There's no Can you come later, later.

Sam  

So he will always have a Christmas lunch with his family. Obviously, I live in Australia and my family are in the UK. Every year, I'm invited to Christmas with his sisters, his parents like that. There's never I can decide if I want to go. So there is no problem if you choose not to go, if I choose not to and have a quiet afternoon, that's okay. Or if I feel like I don't want to be alone because it's, you can find that day quite difficult, then I will go. But there's this kind of mix between, you know, feeling lonely and wanting to be alone. So it's just finding that balance on the headspace that you're in on that day, and respecting your own. And then you're in the UK as well, when I say I'm gonna head off now if I go. So I've been invited to Christmas Day this this year, and I'll probably go and then he'll probably take the kids to see Amy's family mid afternoon. And that's actually perfect for me because not too much. And then I'll get some, you know, a long time. So pretty fluid.

Becca  

So just thinking about traditions then. So this is you saying it's fluid, but it does sound like there's some structure around it. You know, there's the fact that you have the different things that you're the other person is always welcome. So let me just ask that I guess so if the if the Christmas presents morning is happening in your house, Brett is also welcome.

Sam  

And me too. So from the furniture that they got together, they will both turn up turn up at my house at seven o'clock. They'll hate it because they like to sleep in. But yes.

Becca  

Okay, so this structure around it even though feel might feel fluid to you. There's there's certainly an agreement on the vaccine days, we know what we're doing. Yeah. Are there any other traditions that you've had to let go of? Because as a couple you used to do things specifically around like Easter or holidaying at someone's home or

Sam  

And I think that's because my situation is quite different because I live so far away from my family and their traditions in the UK. So no, like it was really, if anything, I liked the fact that I get to choose what to do on my own time. So that no, but there's no real we do we do. And you know, if I've got the kids on Easter Sunday, I'll always do an Easter egg hunt. He's welcome to come to that. But there's there's nothing really

Becca  

but if they're with him, you don't have to organize it. It's not like,

Sam  

yeah, yeah. So you know, there's nothing really that I've had to create. It's new, I just or have let go because we always kind of caught up with this family. So it's really, it's up to me if I want to be involved.

Becca  

Yeah, I think you're a parenting inspiration. One of the things that I love that you do is like, well, you've said yourself, you get to Friday, you've had enough time away from them to actually miss them and look forward to it. What I love your parenting inspiration is that on the weekends, you plan all of these activities with the kids. It's not I don't see you ever just sitting around. Bored. There's something going on. whereas you're visiting animal farms, you're taking little trips down the beach with its day trips or weekends away. There's always

Sam  

I think that studying guy energy and me getting bored as well, like I Yeah, sure we'll have a day where we hang around. But by three o'clock in the afternoon, you kind of go, let's go do something. Yeah, that's born of when I left and Freddie was 11. And as my was through 11 months, yeah, I 11 months. That's a long day to do something with kids of that age group. So I always had to go, I just need an outing. I need like these points in my day that make that day easier for me. And it's just continued as I've got older, and they're easy and no, six or nine. But they like doing things to you know, they like, get out. There's so much to do in Melbourne. Right? We live in a great place. We live close to town. And yeah, and it's about creating those memories of this life that they've grown up. Maybe I'm a Yeah, it's a thing for us being a divorced family. Who knows? I really don't think

Becca  

You said yourself, you bringing your own energy into that. But I don't want any listeners to feel like they're failing at parenting, or not doing now because my children are being really hard to pull out of their rooms. Minor 13. Yeah, a little bit. But I like getting active. I like you know, let's go for a family cycle. And there's always a resistance. No, come on.

Sam  

Don't get me wrong. There's resistance sometimes in what you know, wanting to get out even just to walk the dog. But like I said, your kids are a little bit older than mine, that six and nine, they still I am still the center of fun, that that isn't always going to be the case. And I'm pretty sure that when they're your kids age that there'll be way more resistance in what they want to do. So I'm enjoying it whilst I can.

Becca  

I wonder let's wait and see. 30 They're probably looking to you like, man, what fun is there for today? You know, what do we do? You're the fun? What did you call it? The captain and fun or something? Yeah. And are there any examples that just think about your co parenting arrangement? Are there any examples where it has gone? horrendously wrong? Or even just a little bit wrong? And what did you do about it? Um,

Sam  

there was a, there was an example a couple of years ago, but I really can't remember what the situation was. It was to do with one of the family Christmases so. So Brett's family's enormous, and there's like two sides of his family and these other Christmas days that they had. And I was invited to one. And then the new girlfriend was invited, and then I got not invited. And then which hurt, but I was kind of okay with it. But then it got really confusing for the kids. And so that was, it didn't feel great. And we kind of, you know, we fell out for a little bit after that. But you realize, again, it goes, you start revisiting those feelings of how you felt annoyed, and then having to talk myself down about it was one day, it's not the end of the world, we just need to get over it. Other things where not where it's gone wrong. But you know, when he wanted to go to Japan, that was fine. I when he says I'm going away for three weeks, the first thing I do is panic. Like internally, I'm like, I've got this this three weeks with the children. Yeah, it's not it wasn't it's not about the kids and managing kids. It's about managing my job. So it's kind of like the, the diary is booked up. I've got travel lined up and so that that's where the anxiety comes when a trip pops up, where I really have to sit down and work out where's my support network in this time? And how am I managing that, and I'm just lucky that his parents are often available to help me too. So amazing. Let me talk through that support network a little bit more detail. So yeah, what does that support look like to you? So

Becca  

you've got your you are a single mom, your solo parenting? Half the time, your ex husband goes away for three weeks, you have a high powered job, like a very intense job, I know the hours that you work. So who is in your support network?

Sam  

So first of all, it's actually the people that I work with, right? So we are at my leadership team is a really diverse mix of people, they all know I'm a single mom, it's part of who I am. So if they my first place is to tell them that this is what's happening. And you know, I am the master of my own hours. So people don't care if I need to take some days off as long as I manage it. Right. So so my first port of call is always that the friends that I have at work, they understand my situation. And I think that's really important to be honest with people that you work with so that they can create a situation right, so that's the first support network. The second one is my friends. Now whether or not they physically come around and help me it's just the mental support sometimes of being able to talk to somebody, you know, I've got some friends around the corner that I just need help in terms of Alright, well, I need to put in a catch up so that kids can play or I need to have something that I know that can keep them occupied.

Becca  

Do you have someone helping with school pickup or anything like that? No,

Sam  

I factor that into my working life I, I make a point of school pickups to literally block that out in my diary as a reoccurring invite. So, that is one thing that, you know, a lot of parents don't get to experience and I think post pandemic, it's really important for me to put my pick my kids up from school, even if we come home, and we do homework together for an hour, and I do work, I just want to be there for that time. If anything, the other support network that helps me around school will be you know, what, what the government provides in terms of after school care. So yeah, absolutely lean into that when I need to, and there's a great program at my school. And then, you know, like I said, my friends, so people always offer to come around. If I need to go and exercise, you know, my friend, Jenny would come around easily for an hour. And I've got, I've got a dog and a cat too. So sometimes it's not, it's like, can somebody walk the dog? For me? It's not, can you come and look after the kids. So you just you just find a way to work through it. And then obviously, the third part is Brett's family. So again, he is fully aware that he has family in this country and Idaho. So his parents will always help if that situation arises. And even his sisters would too. So it's really just about rallying those three different things around that time to make it work for me. And

Becca  

if I could paraphrase that, then I'm paraphrasing, how do you build a support network that works for you, it's be crystal clear about what your needs are, and share with people, your single parent, you're going to need to block out this amount of time. So being crystal clear, telling people and asking people for help. Yeah. Would that be fair to say you've got to be, be clear, tell people what you need, and be brave enough to ask.

Sam  

Yeah, and the asking bit, a lot of people don't like doing right. And other people think it's an exercise, don't also like to state their situation as well. But it's, we've moved past that now, I think, be honest about the support you need from work, because there's other different groups of people that are getting support at work. So so why shouldn't you as a single parent? Absolutely. Awesome.

Becca  

All right. So my final question for you is, what advice would you give someone who is trying to negotiate a co parenting arrangement right now?

Sam  

It's hard, we got to take the emotion out of it. And whether that's what I said earlier about reframing this as an opportunity for freedom or reframing it as an opportunity to get time to yourself, but you're not going to get anywhere. If it's emotionally fraught, you know, you have to, maybe that's finding a space to have the conversation where you are less emotional about it. Yeah, that's, that's super hard. Because not everybody breaks up, like our breakup, you know, everybody has a different circumstance. So of course, I know a lot of friends that have used mediation. And I think they've found that helpful to have somebody else there. mediating those conversations. And I think definitely lean into that, because there's the government provides that service if you need it. But it would be Yeah, taking the emotion out of it. I mean, I actually could not do my job. If I wasn't divorced. I didn't get the support in my marriage to do the job that I do. Right. So reframing it, my gosh, but isn't that crazy, right?

Becca  

That you couldn't do your amazing job. You weren't divorced, that supported

Sam  

in the marriage? Yeah, liberal what I need to deliver and give what I give myself into that role, because of the role that I played in that family unit. So

Becca  

knowing of the emotional labor, the physical labor that

Sam  

I do, and I don't know, I do find as well that in some of the experiences that I have been through with other people and their breakups. Sometimes I find that some of the women I know have tried to retain more control of the kids through that process, almost out of spite. And I think people have to realize like, and maybe that's because there's the last element of control is that at least I can have the kids all the time, and my dad's getting them every other weekend, right? That only hurts you it hurts you and the kids and the dad, but really thinking about this, this is your chance to get what you need back for yourself. Right? Yeah. And I I often say to people, like, you know, the upside of divorces is the time that you get to invest in yourself because as a mom, everybody knows what it's like in those first couple of years. You just don't get that time and do you get that time ever, you know, so just lean into it. lean into it and see it as a positive.

Becca  

Beautiful advice, Sam. Now you didn't swear anywhere near as much as expected you to.

Sam

Maybe we should do it with wine next time.

Becca

I'm down!

Alright Sam, thank you so much for all of your time. You’re amazing!

Can’t wait people to hear this and tell us what they think about their co parenting arrangements.

Sam

You're more than welcome. Thank You.

Becca

Thanks for listening. I hope you took something of value out of this episode. I'm your host, Becca Maxwell. And you can find me on the web at www.dodivorceright.com or on Instagram at DoDivorceRight. 

I look forward to connecting with you there.

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